Have you ever thought about being on TV? As in - getting FREE, organic publicity by being interviewed on a morning show or the news?
I know... I hadn't either!
My mind was blown after this awesome interview with media expert, Gigi Barnett. Gigi helps entrepreneurs scale their brands using media. On today's show, Gigi walks us through how we can use the media to grow our market, establish ourselves as experts, create visibility, and more. She also helps us streamline our pitch so that we can get featured on more outlets, faster.
I'm pumped to start trying this method of PR, and you need to take a listen to this, sis!
I know you'll enjoy.
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FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPTION:
Welcome to episode number 78. We are chatting with Gigi Barnett today, and we're going to be talking about how to perfect your pitch and get your brand featured on the media. What it's going to be super cool. I had never considered this strategy and Gigi just blew my mind on today's interview. She took us through how you can figure out what emerging trend that you can speak to. She explained how you can actually pitch different outlets from TV to radio, to podcasts, even blogs. And it's just so full of gold. You're going to love it. Before we dig into the interview, I want to read you the review of the week. This review was left by my girl, my friend, Robin Graham, and it's titled love. Love, love. Stephanie is amazing. She brings so much light to the world personally and professionally. She is rocking the mompreneur platform and helping so many women achieve their goals and dreams.
Stefanie shares, not only her business expertise, but does so in a kind and humble way to ensure all listening to her, know her, feel her passion and can learn with ease. The fact that she shares her faith every step of the way and helps guide women to find and master their God led potential is so inspiring. People often hide their faith, but not Stephanie. Everything about her is front and center. And I love that you are a woman starting a business or a small business owner or entrepreneur at this podcast is for you. Thank you, Robin. I appreciate you. Those words of encouragement just means so much to me and Hey mama, if you haven't paused this episode super quickly, head over to iTunes, leave a written review, and I might read yours next
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Girl, Hey, since we're talking about publicity today and getting featured on the media, I wanted to remind you that I have a podcasting course that just came out. You can join the dozens of women that are already enrolled, scaling their brand and business, using podcasting as a method to pour into their niche, grow their platform and share their message. And then girlfriend, you can monetize it. So if you're interested in starting a podcast or you want more details, go take my free quiz, check out my a hundred percent free training at podcast quiz dot G R eight. The number.com. Our very special guest today is Gigi Barnett and Gigi knows news. She's a veteran TV, personality and journalist who shows service-based consultants, coaches, business owners, many of whom are mompreneurs just like you, how to do their own public relations so that they can get free invaluable media exposure for their brands.
During her 20 year career. She's hosted shows for local NBC and CBS stations and reported for the Miami Herald Bloomberg business week and Virgin media. One in Ireland, Gigi is a Navy wife and mama of two. And when she's not in front of a camera or helping her clients from her home office in San Diego, she loves to read. So in devour, all things chocolate let's dig into today's show. Hey ladies. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. I'm sitting here with the beautiful Gigi. I'm excited because you heard about her in the intro, but she's going to be teaching us and me too. Cause I really know nothing about this topic. She is teaching us all about pitching the media today and how we can use that as an Avenue to grow, build, and scale our businesses. So Gigi welcome. Hey stuff. I'm glad to be here. It's good talking to you. You too. So first of all, we have to hear your story. Like tell us all about you, who you are and how did you become this media guru, so to speak?
Okay, well, people tend to start off with, you know, their business background. First. I always saw it with my family first, if you don't mind. So I am mama to buy a little boy, a little girl, and I'm a Navy wife. My husband Todd is a healthcare executive in the Navy. And we are based on the sunny West coast, California, San Diego. And for 20 years, I was a TV news anchor and a print journalist. And yeah, so I'm talking about somebody who knows the media. And I had this cool side gig where I was training. I was doing media training for high level executives and I was, you know, telling them or showing them what to say to a reporter, what to never say to a reporter. And we were, you know, it was doing that. I just realized that, you know what, they're I missing a slew of people, women mompreneurs, who really need to know how to do their own public relations and how to pitch the media and how to get their name and their voices out in the media on a bigger stage, a bigger platform.
And I created a story, sell your brand. And that's how I got to it. You know, I thought also the other thing is I had the story after I had my daughter where I, you know, I spoke up for myself in my career and it was so empowering. And I, and I thought, just imagine if more women were using their voices, because as women, we, we promote our kids. We promote our husbands. We'll talk about them all day. Right? Well, even our dogs, you know, he's such a good boy. You know, he's the best in his dog training class. We will do that. But when it comes to speaking up and having our voices heard and getting our message out, for some reason, we shrink back and we shy away and we think, Oh, people don't want to hear what I have to say. And I'm here to tell you, yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. And you have a huge message that really needs to get out there so that people can start working with you and you can change, change things for a lot of people. So that was the other reason why I thought, yeah, stories.
So you're now working with, you know, coaches and mompreneurs and female entrepreneurs, and you're helping them with media visibility. Right. So tell us what does that mean? And yeah,
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So, well, let me just say it this way. So here you are, you have this wonderful business, you have this vehicle to help people this vehicle to change and impact others and your family as well. But it comes down to, if people don't know that you exist, they'll never know that you exist, right. And that's the point is, so you have to be visible. So you have to put yourself on a stage to say, Hey world, here I am. You know, I can help you with this situation. I can help you with this business idea. I can help with whatever it is that your business answers, the need for people need to know that you're there. And so that's what visibility is. We do it in Mark, in advertising, right? That's what advertising is for. But there's another component to your marketing, your advertising plan, and that's public relations. It's called public relations. All it is is pitching the media. All it is is getting your voice out and boosting your credibility through the media.
Is that specifically TV? Is it also podcast spots? What does that mean to you?
So it's all of it. You typically, when we think of mainstream media, we think television, we think radio, we think print and those, and then when we use a print, it can be online or actual physical papers that you're reading under print includes magazines. It includes newspapers. So that's the umbrella for print, but now we have podcasts. And so while podcasts was not ever really a part of the traditional mainstream media, now it is.
Yeah. And you know, and each medium of the media, each platform has its own unique method that they want you to get in contact with them and that they want to send out content. If the news story is a news story is content. That's all, it is content to their viewers, listeners and readers. So that's what mainstream media is. And people think, Oh, well, you know, it's social media is, well, no, it's not. Those are two different two different beasts.
Okay. This is super cool because, so I launched my podcast about seven months ago and it was doing, it's been going great, kind of organically. And then in the last, probably 45 days I hired initially I was doing it. So I was doing my own PR so to speak, but then I'm like, this is so overwhelming. So I actually hired someone to help me with getting guest spots on other podcasts. Right. And it doubled in like 30 days, the amount of downloads. I mean, it was crazy. I saw this and I'm like, Ooh. So it's so funny that you kind of found me at this time because I guess I never termed it as, wow. I guess I am doing PR and I'm growing this brand. And for me it was doing podcast spots. So it's really cool that you're bringing this up because I think so many mompreneurs, they don't even realize that this is an Avenue for them at all. It's never even crossed their mind. They don't know.
At first off to you at a girl, it's good that you, you got somebody to do that for you because it can't be overwhelming. But what they don't understand is number one, you need it. If we think that, you know, large major corporations, they wouldn't think of running a day of with business without public relations. And it's not just, you know, for when something goes wrong. No, it's completely a offensive approach. So they don't know number one that I needed, but they also don't realize, Oh, wait a minute. I can do this. And I can do this by myself. And I can do this in a way that where I can, as I scale it scales. Okay. When you saw that, you know, you started off doing it on your own and it worked well, but you needed someone to take over. So as you scale, it's scaled and that's really the approach that you should take.
So here's the thing. So in addition to getting that visibility, what it does is really, and what I love about it is that it boosts your credibility. So that means your image as an expert image, as an up and coming thought leader in your niche and your business, all of that, it is what it does. It's what it provides, what it offers. And that is really kind of, I think the secret sauce of doing your own media pitching is that people now they see you and they know you. And because you have that third party validation, you know, it's coming from a local TV station, that's coming from a local newspaper, or even a regional one, or yea, if you're getting it from Oprah or if it's coming from the today show, or if it's coming from something that huge, that is credibility for you, that it says, Oh, she is who she says she is. Because when you've been bedded by a reporter, when you've been vetted by a producer or an editor, this girl must know her stuff. So that's what people think. That's what this is saying. So I want to work with her.
Yeah. So here's me. Kay. Let's let's use me as an example. Let's say, I'm like, Ooh, I can feel into this. Like I want to get on my local news. I want to go and I want to spread this education. So to speak about female empowerment, women being able to balance, not balanced, but blend all areas of their life and still scale a successful business, all being a mama. Here's me never been on the news before. What do I do? What does it mean to pitch this local station?
Well, first, what, what I do, what I do with my clients is I have this theory of you can call it belief that your newsworthy story idea, plus a noteworthy person who's bringing that is going to equal media attention. So that's the equation for me. That's what I always work under when I'm taking on my clients or when I'm working through working through with this. So you have to have an idea and that's a newsworthy story idea, content idea, a newsworthy story, because to just go to the media and say, Hey, yeah, I started my business. Can you put me on your show?
And then they're going to say you and a thousand other people who started the business today. So you have to have
A new story idea, that's newsworthy, and that is going to be your ticket in, right. That's going to be your ticket. So if it's coming from someone who is a noteworthy person, note that, so that's your personal story, right? And you combine those two for a newsworthy idea. I often say, Hey, I have this, what I call the T and T effect. If you notice trends in your business, if you notice people coming in and they want something particular, or they were they asking for, you know, something that was really hot last few months, and now they're not anymore. Or if you're noticing things like that, you want to write those out, start jotting those down. The other piece is the timely efforts. So I think T and T trends and timing is going to really equal a great story idea. So let's say for instance, you have mother's day coming up, right?
And you've noticed some trends in your business that would work really well for moms. Well, then you can take that and you can potentially pitch that. Or here's another idea. You're a top selling realtor in your area and you're seeing home prices are probably going to dip this summer. So that's where I'm taking my, by my background as a realtor, my background as being a top selling realtor, that's my noteworthy story. And I'm seeing this trend of homes, prices, possibly dropping. And now the timing element is this summer. So I'm going to pitch that to a local, either a TV show or a local publication. So I think of trends and timing. And when I, when I want people to look at newsworthy content, okay. And then I tell, have an ad their story, which is who you are, what makes you different? Makes you interesting? What makes you a stand out? Yeah. And then I pitched that.
Okay. And that makes perfect sense for like that realtor example you gave. So I work with a lot of women that are in the coaching space or in the podcasting space. So let's dissect an example. I know I'm putting you on the spot, but you're amazing. So I think, I think you can handle it. Let's say, okay, we've got this life coach and they see this trend of, you know, let's say female entrepreneurship, the working hours are going down in the summer because they have all of these kids and the kids are off for the summer and they want to help women become more productive with less time. There's a problem. There's an emerging trend. It doesn't speak to everyone because her, her niche is only women with kids. Can she still pitch? And what would, what do you think her, her tagline would be or horror or her story?
Yeah, she can still pitch. So if she's going to be noticing those trends and she comes up with, Ooh, you know, here are five ways that you can keep those kids busy this summer, or, Oh, here are three things that you can do with a toddler. Oh boy, that's my life right there. So what she wants to do is, is she says, okay, well, here, here I am. I've been a mompreneur or mom expert, or I've helped so many women X number of women figure this out over the course of X, many years. Right? So that's my noteworthy kind of claim to fame. And I have this idea of, okay, here are five things that you can do with your kids. I've noticed really keeps them busy and gets them ready for nap time. Or so then what she will do is the next step is saying, okay, I have this great idea who should I send it to?
Where do our audiences align? So it needs to be relevant. Your pitch needs to be relevant. So you're not going to send, say the direction of a market for something, or you're not going to send travel. We're not going to send travel to a food magazine, right. It's not aligned, right. Unless they, unless they want to know something specific. So she's gonna look for the other mom, she's gonna look for the local mom magazines. She's look for, you know, what's really great. I always say local news is, it's kind of a sleeping beast because you can get a lot done with local news. Those weekend morning shows are amazing to get that kind of content out. She can do podcasts, right? So she's pitching podcasts. So in podcasts where other mompreneurs like her, listen, that's how, what we would do next is saying, okay, where, who, who would want this content?
We're going to make sure that it's strategic and that we're going to pitch them. Something else I want to say is that I see several PR companies they pitch, or they'll say you want to start with blog posts first, right? And then you want to work your way up to doing local TV. And then you want to work your way up to doing podcasts. I often say, where are your strengths? You are a strong writer. Do you really enjoy writing? Start there first and really kind of start crafting pitches and start getting into those publications. And then once you've gotten in, then moved to other areas that you may be unsure,
Oh, I don't really know podcasts, you know, test the waters.
Hmm. I don't really know if I'm a good speaker, but you know what? You got to try it. So it, men move on to the things that you are not as comfortable with, like television and radio. And speaking, as you're doing that gets a media training along the way. Cause that always helps. And then, you know, start adding on those pieces, but start where your strengths lie and then go from there. That's such
Good advice because the first thing that popped into my head when you were like, yeah, then the weekend show I'm like in my brain, I immediately go, Oh my gosh, I'm sitting in this chair. I'm sweating through my shirt. I'm going on, literally like a TV right now. You know, hiding behind my microphone is one thing. But like live TV. It just seems so intense.
It's not, can I just get, it's not, Oh, bus cause. But people are like, they're afraid of even going live on Facebook. They are like, I'm turning off this episode. This is scary. I am, I'm freaking out just listening to them.
Right. Don't don't freak out because that is the feeble face of fear talking to you. Right. That's the first thing that I tell all my clients, if they will face a fear, we talk back to that thing and we tell them, Oh no, not today. You know what? Let's try this because I have a little test that I like to take my clients with first that it sures them. You will not flop. You will fly when you have any kind of live situation and you want to take it. You want to do it. Let's go. Okay. So it's called a bathroom test. Ooh, interesting. You're not going in there for why you think you're going in there.
So her all, you're not going to do that.
You so it does two things. It helps you see that, you know, everything that's that you can handle the situation and you're not going to be, you know, you're not going to have a deer in headlights. Look, you're not going to be stumped. Well, here it goes. Let's say stuff that you invite me to lunch at your house. You say, let's come to my house at noon. And I go great. Along the way I stopped. And I grabbed some flowers because I'm like, Ooh, stuff really loves flowers. And I'm probably gonna grab maybe something else. You know, maybe a box of chocolates or for you. And I give them the chocolate because that's your favorite? I love chocolate. Oh boy. And we're going to eat it together. So I'm buying it for you, but you're going to share right.
Pick up some wine too. And then we'll just sit on the patio. So At your house, I'm not going to go. Or you open the door. Hey Gigi, Hey Stef.
They had the top along the way. I said, and I didn't realize it was going to be so far and I really need to use relator's room. Can you, where is your powder room? So right now, in your mind stuff, tell me in your house, how would you direct me? I'd say, come in, go down the hall to your right. Boom. You did not hesitate. Did you now know? Cause you know where that part, that powder room is, right? That's how your business is, you know about your business. And if you don't, we need to talk. That would be right. Right. But you should know where everything in your business is. Right? You should know how you speak to your clients. You should know what your clients need from you. You should know how you help them, all of those things. So you're not going to get some during a, any kind of press situation.
Here's the other thing that a lot of people don't know that happens behind the scenes. When you pitch a television show or radio show, it doesn't matter if it's local or all the way up to national, they ask you to provide some questions for them. Yeah. They say to you, okay, this is a great topic. We love this topic idea. What are some of the questions that you think our hosts or our interviewer would potentially ask you around this topic? You'll write those questions down. So it's almost like you're kind of, you kind of got a cheat sheet there. So you know, the questions are going to come at you. So you're never going to be stumped and anger doesn't or a host and interviewer. They don't really want you to be stopped. They want you to look good because if you look good during that show, guess who looks good? They do. And they have the added benefit of getting the content that their viewers really want out in a smooth, effortless manner. And they like that when a segment goes off without a hitch. So just know just like, you know where the bathroom is and you're in your house, you know, everything that's gonna be coming at you in an interview.
So, okay. I love that advice. And that's so helpful. And let's say, we go back to our examples. Let's say this life, coach, whatever she thinks of a couple local, maybe blogs that are mommy related, or I thought of one immediately that they're always, I always see their Facebook stuff. And I'm like, Oh yeah. There's like a blogging magazine thing. Like duh, like what a perfect fit. So they think of the news channel or they think of the thing. What's the next step? Like, how do they actually pitch? Is it an email address? How should their email feel? Is it casual as a business? See, like what's your advice there?
Yeah. It depends on the tone at first off. Let me say this. It depends on the medium. So it depends on what platform you're going to pitch. For instance, television producers. They don't like lengthy pitches. Like no, get it, get to the point, tell me what you want. And if I have a spot, I'll contact you for something like a podcast or especially an article that you're writing or a news story idea for a written post. They want a little more content, a little more background. And especially depending on what you're pitching to, if it's a business magazine, if it's a business journal, they want, they want more details they want. And the other thing too, that many of them want, they want the people part met people. Part is someone who is real, who's being affected by the trends that you see. You can provide that for all of these, your content is golden.
So just know who you're, who you're pitching to first. And then that will tell you that will dictate to you the tone that you should take. And so, so that's where you want to start, know who you're pitching and then you can figure out from there. And if you go on their website and you know, and they say, Hey, here's what we like to see. Especially for online publications. If you just Google how to write for how to be a guest contributor for fill in the blank, they all have pages listed and they'll walk you through that process of pitching to them and what they like to see. And you provide that. And then fingers crossed. You should hear back from them if you follow their directions. And if your pitch is really newsworthy and it speaks it's relevant and it speaks to their audience, you should hear back.
So I love that. Thank you. Do you do, that's amazing every time you say something, I'm like, Oh, I just thought of another question. This is so good. And I think I can really resonate with what you're saying, because when I do a pitch for another podcast, I've got a story in there. That's kind of like this vulnerable story. That's relating to all the dark things that I had to go through as a mom preneur, then I talk about, here's what I want to teach. This is why it's going to help your audience specifically. This is what your audience is going to gain out of this. This is my platform, and this is how I'm going to share it for you and get new eyeballs on your stuff. So it sounds similar to what you're saying. And I like the idea of lengthening it, shortening it, or tailoring your tone based on what it is and who owns it.
Yeah. Everything is it's going to be an email pitch. I have this, I just, I tried it out the other day with my husband, but I have this tip where, you know, you can, that I share with my clients that you can find any producer anywhere across the country. And it really, a lot of times it comes with a simple phone call. That's the other thing is most pitches are an email, but especially for broadcast television radio, they're okay with you calling them. And here's the other thing, if you don't hear back follow ups, you got to follow up just like how you have to follow up with a sale. Following up with the media many times. That's how I get a lot of my pitches approved. And even for myself, it's a, Hey, did you get my email? Here's what remember me? It's that? It's that simple, quick, short. Follow-Up that's gonna land it for you as opposed to someone who doesn't follow up. So it's okay to Paul. Yep. And don't forget the follow-up
So good. So I have one last question you pitch these, let's say you pitched 10. You're like I found 10 outlets that would really resonate with my message. And you think you did really good, like you should hear from just all 10. Right? Do D I mean, let's get these ladies to have a realistic expectation of results. Okay. So kidding ladies.
I can't tell you what the results rate is going be, what the success rate is going to be. I'll tell you about one of my clients. This is a pitch for get somebody to help you. Just like how you got someone to help you get someone to help you. But one of my clients, we did that. I'd like to work in funks of 10. So I'm glad that you went 10. So I like to work in chunks, chunks of 10. And so a few weeks ago we pitched 10. It was podcasts and a couple of television stations in there and right off the bat, four of them got back to her. So she had a 40% success rate, which is quite high thing. Yeah. And then we did a followup and she got another one. So that was 50% success rate. Don't expect that much, especially on your first try.
But if you hear back from even one and you imagine the visibility component that comes from the best one television show, one, article, one podcast, it's going to boost you much more than what you're seeing now. And don't forget, media is free. You're not paying advertising. As I mentioned before, the ticket in or the currency end to media is having those good story ideas and being new and being noteworthy. So once you get in as well, that allows you to now create a relationship with that person where you can continue to just feed them story ideas, content ideas, and imagine being mentioned in a publication quite frequently, that's going to boost your visibility. People are going to know who you are, where you are, what you do. And that's going to boost people wanting to work with you and ultimately your rates. Right. That's what we love seeing. Heck yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So don't worry about the success rate of others. Just know that if you don't pitch, nobody's going to know you. So go ahead and do it. Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to do that and get it out there. So yeah, I find that when people are, are, some of my clients were like Gigi, I need to know how many people and don't worry, breathe. You know, this one, just one is more than what you had before.
And I actually, this is cool because I have a friend that uses the local media for her nutrition business all the time. And she has like a five minute spot all the time. Well, what happened is she pitched them once. And then, because she was so great, they keep asking her to come back and she's not even like, and then other outlets were seeing her on there and going well, will you come speak on our show? And so it was like this organic growth for her because she got on one time and I'm sure you see that often. So it's like, don't be afraid. Just try.
I do. I see that actually, when I was an anchor one of my stations, there was one woman and she would pitch herself and we actually good friends. Now we were friends, but she would pitch herself to stations all over the country. And she was having gone on a road trip. And so she would get, so it was almost kind of like being nationally syndicated for her. She would go, you know, from one station to the next and all different States. And so she had these clients all over the country just by taking these road trips when stations wanted to you to interview her. So yes. And here's the other thing too, especially for television. Once you get on one show and they see that number one, your personality shines and you're okay. You know, speaking from the camera or maybe you've had some media training, they want you back. Cause finding those kinds of guests who are interesting and who have something to say, it's kind of hard. Yeah.
We've got a gym. They want to keep you. And, and, and here's the thing. And if you keep coming up with all these great segment ideas and story ideas, newsworthy ideas, that content they're like, the producer loves you. Oh man, I don't have to think hard when, when Steph comes into the studio because they know they can just kind of let you go. And that that three minutes will shine and they're, and they're giving their viewers want. And it's great when your, when your audience aligns. And so now you're, you're their viewers become your clients. Wow. Well, Gigi, my mind is blown. My jaw is on the floor. I'm obsessed with this whole method of, you know, just media, publicity. It's cool. So tell us, thank you. First of all. And I think you're what you're doing your mission and helping bless all of these people that are trying to grow their brand.
And you've thought of this amazing niche and a way for them to do this and scale without spending thousands of dollars. And I think that's just such a cool mission. I call on your heart. So tell us, how can everybody find you, tell us more about stories, sell your brand. And we got to now, okay. So I, my story sell your brand.com. And if you just Google Gigi Barnett, you'll see a lot of my new stuff pop up, which is great. I'm okay with people still watching that nowadays, but heading the story, sell your brand. And when you get there, I have a free resource for you on that free resource. I will show you where to look in your business for this great newsworthy content, what you should be looking for when to pitch. And it will also show you what not to pitch, because sometimes, you know, we need to know the dues.
Sometimes we need to know the don'ts as well. Don't do this. So I'll show you how to do that. And also we'll, we'll give you a free 30 minute maximize your media consultation all for free. Just head to story, sell your brand.com. You should see everything there. Get that your perfect pitch for cheap and start now, you know? Oh, heck yes. I love this. You guys listening. You can get in before the wave, because we don't want to you to tell anybody else about the strategy, right? We're going to get over there. Grab that cool freebie and yes. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Gigi. Thank you, Steph. It was so much fun.
Wow. I hope you learned as much as I did about media publicity today, I've already got so many ideas and I love Gigi's tangible, direct advice. So excited to really dig into this further and think about ways we can scale our brands using media. I want to pray over you, mama, that you learned something today to go and grow and scale your business. I pray that whatever you to take that dream in your heart to the next level is shown to you now that whatever resources that you need or the mentor that you've been praying for, that they emerge and that God shows you the next steps you need to take on your path to achieving the greatest call on your heart. I pray that your field with all the things you need, patience and provision and grace as always love and light.
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